Spiritual Healing With Universal Laws: From Chaos to Calm Ep. 4

Episode Transcript

Martha: Hi, and welcome to this episode of The Place to Be Free Podcast. I’m so excited. I have a guest with me today, and her name is Cheyenne Bone.

Cheyenne has been working with Universal Laws, teaching and mentoring clients and students who want to bring more of the principles and properties of Universal Laws into their lives to create a life that they love and want.

I’m going to introduce you to Cheyenne and let her tell you a little bit about what her journey has been like. She has a really interesting story and background. When we first met, very recently, I was really wowed by her courage and her story.

I knew I wanted to get to know her better and talk to her, and when I did, it was a no-brainer that I had to have her on the podcast.

Welcome, Cheyenne. I’m so glad you’re here.

Cheyenne: Thank you for having me. I’m so excited to be here.

Martha: Let’s jump right in. Tell people a little bit about your story and your background. You did healing work in Saskatchewan, but before you came to that work, what was your journey?

Cheyenne: I grew up in a very small town called Warman, Saskatchewan, near Saskatoon. Growing up in a small town, we were all very religious. We grew up Mennonite Christian.

We were a family that went to church every Sunday. We prayed before every meal. Everything, in my perception at the time, was perfect. We attended youth groups when I was young, and I loved being at church. The whole sensation of it felt really warm and welcoming.

But there was some curiosity inside me.

They were preaching about God and how He would never let you be in a state of pain, and if you were loyal and followed Him, you would be lifted of these ailments.

That made sense when we went to church on Sundays, but at home, things didn’t always seem to match what we were being taught.

My grandparents lived with us, and they were also very religious. My grandpa read the Bible every day. We would often spend our evenings talking, and my life was filled with the word of the Bible.

But my grandpa had COPD, a very intense lung disorder that gets worse as you go on. I watched him be on oxygen all the time.

Even at a very young age, I couldn’t understand why this devoted gentleman, who preached the Bible and never complained, was in such a state of pain.

There was something that wasn’t connecting for me.

I would also see families struggle and not be able to pay their bills, and it fell short of what they were telling me in church. We were supposed to be prosperous. If you followed the Bible and listened to the messages at church, you were supposed to be well taken care of.

So I had questions.

But we were taught not to question what we were learning on Sunday.

Martha: But you had questions.

Cheyenne: I had a lot of questions, and nobody seemed to answer them for me. It was considered sinful that I even had these questions.

What I also couldn’t understand was what happened when somebody was going through a really hard time.

They would bring this family to the front of the church. The pastor would tell the congregation the person’s story and what they were struggling with. Then everyone would come to the front, lay their hands on the family, and say a prayer over them.

As a young child, I could watch the energy of the whole church completely change.

I saw this burden being lifted out of people and flowing away. I was in awe.

Why weren’t we talking about the color shift and the feeling of the energy in the whole church moving?

Yes, we were helping this family, but why weren’t we talking about the whole experience?

It was very intense through my young eyes.

Martha: You were seeing the real metaphysical experience—meta meaning beyond the physical—of what was going on.

You were in tune with that. You were seeing, hearing, and feeling the energy, yet everyone around you was acting like it wasn’t there.

Cheyenne: Yes. I couldn’t understand it.

I wanted to start screaming that there were angels in the room. We had welcomed them there, but I seemed to be the only one who was really lit up by it. Everybody around me was still full of sadness and sorrow for whatever the family was going through.

I tried a few times to talk to my mom and dad about watching the angels come down and about the different energies people carried.

I expressed to my mom that I could see where people’s pain was. If somebody walked past me on the street, I could see if they were holding something in their kidneys or if their shoulder was out of place and they were holding a lot of weight and energy there.

It was okay if I talked about angels.

But if I started talking about witnessing people’s pain with my own eyes, that was considered sinful.

Martha: It’s fascinating because there’s a discrepancy between certain parts of religion and the energetic or metaphysical truth of what is actually happening.

I’ve experienced similar things. If you talked about angels, people could become uncomfortable and say, “Angels don’t do healing. Only God does.”

And I’m thinking, how many churches have cherubs and angels all over them?

There’s a discrepancy.

When those questions start coming up, you need answers. And that questioning itself can be Source working through you.

Cheyenne: Which I completely understand now.

It’s something I take pride in. I feel honored that I woke up this early and that, even through everything in my story, I never let it completely dim.

But after my mom told me that what I was doing was sinful, that became programming.

It caused me to shove everything down. I stopped expressing it. I stopped talking about it. I would almost hide my eyes when I could see things.

Martha: When you went to your mom with these experiences, did she directly tell you they were sinful? Did she shame you, or was it more that she pushed them aside and you got the feeling they were wrong?

Cheyenne: It was more indirect.

I was a very creative dreamer, and we were very filtered in what we could watch on television and take in through media. If I had a bad reaction, I would have violent nightmares.

Whenever I talked about what I was seeing, my mom would sometimes use the nightmares as the explanation.

She would say things like, “The devil is at work in some of these things, and he’s trying to pull you away from God.”

That scared me terribly.

My whole life, I was trying to be this Christian girl who loved and adored her family and only wanted to follow in their footsteps.

Then my parental figure was telling me that the devil was at work in my life.

That was terrifying.

She didn’t specifically say everything I saw was sinful, but she referenced it enough that I understood the message.

I think it was because she didn’t really have answers for me. Angels were good, so the angel experiences were fine. Anything else was pushed aside.

Martha: So where did you go from there?

Cheyenne: I pushed it all down.

I tried really hard to get back into the Bible and understand it at a better level.

Then we moved into the city, and my group of friends changed.

My best friend Rachel’s mom was very spiritual—not religious, but spiritual. There’s a big difference.

That sparked my interest again.

Here was a grown woman and an authoritative figure in my life who seemed to have her life together, yet she entertained all these spiritual ideas. She introduced me to crystals and that whole realm.

She didn’t seem sinful.

I mostly watched from the sidelines with curiosity.

Then she had a gentleman come over who did energy work.

She would lie on a treatment table, and I would watch him. He wouldn’t touch her at all, but he would change the entire energy in the house.

I could see him remove what looked like darkness or an energetic buildup inside her body and then pour the whitest light I had ever seen into her.

The first few times I saw it, I was scared because my programming told me this was the work of the devil.

It was wrong. It was scary.

But I couldn’t keep my eyes off it.

Martha: Did you feel like you were almost losing your mind, moving between these two different worlds?

On one side, you’re being shown energy moving in love and light. On the other side, you have a family and religious background rooted in fear around these experiences.

How did you find peace with that conflict?

Cheyenne: It was a journey. It did not happen overnight.

I faced a lot of shame and guilt for many years.

But I always had a really good relationship with what I interpreted as God. I felt that God spoke to me clearly and let me know when I was on the right path or when it was okay to move forward.

It actually took my parents getting divorced when I was 16 for me to feel like I had permission to step forward.

Divorce was also considered extremely sinful in my upbringing.

Something clicked.

If my parents could do something considered sinful, then maybe I could explore something I had been told was sinful—especially if I could help somebody heal through it.

Martha: That was your permission slip.

Cheyenne: Yes.

It broke the code for me.

I had been so stuck inside this box of who we had to be and what kind of life we had to live.

When my parents stepped outside that box, I thought, maybe I’m not in the right box either. Maybe there’s something else here that I’ve been held back from.

I got in touch with my friend’s mom’s friend, Ryan Morrison, who was a Reiki master in Saskatoon.

He started explaining energy healing and Reiki to me.

It was like somebody took the blinds off my eyes.

Here was someone saying all the things I needed to hear in order to feel okay with what I was doing and what I could see—to actually feel normal.

Before that, I felt like I had two personalities.

On one side, there was love, fluidity, and helping people. I could help somebody move from feeling extremely depressed and carrying chronic pain into feeling refreshed, happier about life, and connected to their purpose again.

Then I would go home and be told that this kind of work was sinful, voodoo, or the devil’s work.

There was such a conflict between those two realities.

Martha: You’re not alone.

I’ve been doing this work for 30 years, and my story has similarities.

I came through Western conventional medicine as a nurse. Then, as a patient dealing with my own health challenges and daily chronic pain, I began seeing discrepancies in that system too.

I followed all the things I was supposed to do, and they didn’t help.

Then I had experiences with energy healing that were profound.

I remember going to a yoga center and having energy healing done. I’d never even heard of it. I didn’t know what it was.

But the experience was so profound that something in me said, “Pay attention. I don’t know what just happened, but you need to find out.”

Then, when I trained in Healing Touch, it felt like lightning went through my fingertips.

There are so many people who are afraid of these experiences because they’ve been taught that they’re doing something wrong or sinful.

There can be tremendous programming around this.

One of the biggest struggles is that people stop trusting themselves.

We want so much to be loved and accepted that we go along with the crowd.

At such a young age, you listened to something inside yourself.

That’s what this podcast is about—the place to be free.

You found a place inside yourself where you could begin resolving that conflict.

Because if we don’t resolve it, we’re constantly in conflict with ourselves.

We’re in our heads trying to justify everything and seek love and approval.

But when we’re in our hearts, we feel the truth.

That constant back and forth can create enormous anxiety.

Cheyenne: Absolutely.

It’s programming. It’s a pattern you enter into, and your subconscious already has a whole storage of those reactions.

That’s when overwhelm sets in and it becomes too heavy for people to move through.

Martha: Eventually you had this knowledge, this wisdom, this energy, and this training.

But you also became a truck driver—which I still have trouble picturing!

How did you move from that life into where you are now?

Cheyenne: It was a journey.

I first met Ryan when I was 14. I started taking courses with him when I was 16.

For two years, I mostly watched from the sidelines before I felt confident enough to move forward.

When my parents split, it opened the door, but I still had 16 years of programming.

We had been an extremely close family. Every night at 7 p.m. was family game night. We played board games every day.

The split was earth-shattering.

But when I started my courses with Ryan, I became completely absorbed in the work.

We did intensive training for about a year. He would take me into a room and show me how to work with the energies in the room. Then we began working with people.

I received serious training.

But I still lived a dual life.

I never talked about spirituality at home. If I did, I worded it in a way that fit my upbringing.

Then, whenever I could get away without my family knowing where I was, I was doing healing work.

Martha: You actually had to hide where you were and what you were doing?

Cheyenne: Yes.

I desperately wanted my family’s approval and love. I wanted to follow in their footsteps.

So at 19, I got my trucking license and showed up on my dad’s doorstep saying, “I’m ready to start trucking.”

I delivered bulk potable water to farms and acreages, often on dirt roads.

There was a lot of time alone in my head.

I would work all day, then go home and see healing clients in the evenings.

But I couldn’t take payment for healing because my programming still told me that was sinful.

I created a loophole in my mind: if I could help people without taking payment and watch them flourish afterward, then somehow it wasn’t as sinful.

Looking back, I understand there was also an unworthiness wound underneath that.

Eventually, larger corporations began hiring me to come in and work with hundreds of staff members and large buildings.

I felt like I was on top of my game.

But I couldn’t tell anybody because I was afraid someone would tell my parents.

There was a real battle between Cheyenne the truck driver and Cheyenne the spiritual healer and guide.

I worked for the trucking company for more than a decade while also doing healing work.

And I loved trucking.

Being a young woman operating these huge machines, getting into difficult places, and then jumping out while people looked at me like, “You’re a woman?”

I took pride in proving people wrong.

Martha: That’s interesting because it was almost preparation for not fitting into the box.

You were already experiencing what it was like to step outside the norm.

Cheyenne: I’ve never thought of it that way.

But yes—it was empowering.

Eventually, my trucking customers started approaching me and oversharing.

They seemed to sense that I could help them somehow, even though they didn’t understand why.

I would spend hours after delivering their water talking with them and counseling them through their issues.

Eventually, I started doing healing work during my trucking job.

My two identities were beginning to merge.

Then there started to be friction at work between me and my manager. We both wanted what was best for the company, but we saw things very differently.

I had always believed I would eventually take over the family company.

Then something funny happened.

The radio in my truck stopped working.

When you drive for 10, 12, or 14 hours a day, that’s a very quiet life.

My boss didn’t think fixing the radio was important, so I accepted that I wasn’t going to have one.

I thought, well, now I have time to learn more about spirituality.

Maybe there’s something I’m missing.

So I went on YouTube and searched for spiritual podcasts.

That’s when I found David Neagle’s podcast, The Successful Mind.

I had searched for spirituality, so I assumed it was a spiritual podcast.

What I heard was someone talking about spirituality in a completely different way than I had been raised with—but not so differently that I resisted it.

It was like someone had removed a filter from my eyes.

He was talking about how we are spiritual beings and how we can consciously develop our relationship with Spirit.

It was exactly what I needed to hear to give myself permission to study more seriously.

Over the next 10 months, I listened for 10 to 16 hours a day—while driving and when I got home.

It started unlocking the programming I had carried my whole life.

Martha: It hit you as truth.

That’s the next level of consciousness: realizing that the energy of your own being is creating—or can consciously create—your reality.

Cheyenne: Absolutely.

When your inner heart hears truth, there is a knowing that is difficult to explain to someone who hasn’t experienced it yet.

Martha: We can ignore truth, because we’re always at choice.

But once the seed has been planted, it’s there.

Personally, I think when we continue to ignore what we know is true, life often becomes more painful.

Because that truth is already inside you.

When it hits you deeply, that’s your soul speaking. That’s your heart and soul connecting to God, Source, Divine Energy—whatever language you use.

Understanding Universal Laws was also a game changer in my own life.

People can work with crystals and different spiritual tools, but the biggest question is: How is this actually going to change your life?

If you’re not learning how to apply Universal Laws and use your own mind in conjunction with your heart, soul, and energy, you’re still at the mercy of everything outside yourself.

Everything becomes a problem, an issue, or a challenge that you feel you have no control over.

So tell us what happened when you began seriously applying Universal Laws.

Cheyenne: David’s work helped give me the tools to give myself permission to accept that I was not being sinful.

What I was doing was healing.

There didn’t need to be shame or guilt attached to helping somebody heal at a deep level.

Through listening to his podcast, taking his courses, and eventually entering mentorship, I reached the point where I knew: I can do this seriously. It’s time.

At one point, he answered one of my questions during a course about leaving my family’s company.

I had to pull my semi over.

He was answering my question about leaving the family business, standing on my own two feet, and being okay with that.

Eventually, I gave notice to my dad.

It was received better than I could have imagined.

He wished me luck.

He had watched the change in me over the previous year.

There was no longer this desperate plea for his approval because I was learning to give that to myself.

I started doing healing work one-on-one full-time.

My first month filled almost immediately. Abundance was flowing.

But I noticed something.

There were a lot of repeat clients.

Some people I had been doing energy work with for more than two years were still returning with basically the same problem they had brought to me in their first session.

At the same time, I had started experimenting with Universal Laws in my own life.

I would take something like the Law of Polarity and consciously change my perception of my day.

I was playing with it at first.

But the results happened quickly.

Then I started experimenting with bigger things and seeing bigger effects.

That flipped a switch in me.

I realized I needed to teach my clients what the Universal Laws were and how to use them.

Because yes, as an energy healer, I could help shift an ailment.

But if someone went home to the exact same environment, repeated the exact same thoughts, and continued the same internal patterns, the effect could come back.

There was still work they needed to do mentally and internally.

That’s when I knew I needed to teach people how to actually work with these laws themselves.

Martha: That’s where this becomes so important.

You and I had very similar realizations.

It’s why I do this work and why I talk about Universal Laws.

This is often the missing piece.

It can take you out of pain and struggle, whether the issue is prosperity, health, relationships, or something else.

The laws help you understand how you participated in creating your current experience—and how you can begin creating something different.

It’s not about simply lying down on someone’s table and expecting them to create your life for you.

It’s about learning to use everything you have at your disposal:

Your mind.

Your heart.

Your soul.

Your energy.

Your beliefs.

Your choices.

Your actions.

I have a saying: We become what we practice.

Universal Laws are a practice.

It’s not enough to intellectually understand them. You apply them. You practice them. You become the embodiment of them.

Eventually, you hit a tipping point where you no longer have to consciously think about every step.

You’ve become it.

It’s like learning Spanish or learning to play the piano.

In the beginning, you practice.

And over time, it becomes part of who you are.

That’s the real power of understanding and applying Universal Laws: moving from feeling that life is happening to you into recognizing your own ability to consciously participate in creating your life.

Thank you so much for being here, Cheyenne, and for sharing your story.

I hope it inspires people and helps them understand something fundamental about freedom:

You are creating the place where you are free.

Cheyenne: Thank you so much for having me.

I feel incredibly blessed and grateful.

Thank you for creating this space for people. There are so many people who are scared to experience these things, talk about them, or ask questions.

You’re creating a space where those conversations can take place.

Martha: You’re welcome. Thanks for listening, and we’ll see you in the next episode of The Place to Be Free Podcast.